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Title: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on August 06, 2013, 04:31:30 pm
Could someone please confirm that 2014's convention is in York ... and let us know the dates. Thanks.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on August 06, 2013, 05:00:36 pm
It was mentioned in the chairman's chat in the Winter 2012/13 journal - "FantasyCon 2014, which will be held in York for the first time" - and I think this is the website, where you can sign up for updates: http://fantasycon2014.wordpress.com/

While we're talking FantasyCon, I noticed some FantasyCon regulars among those co-signing John Scalzi's pledge to not attend conventions that don't have a formal policy on sexual harassment, so that's something for the organisers to bear in mind: http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/07/02/my-new-convention-harassment-policy/. (Such a policy does seem like a good idea.)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on August 06, 2013, 06:36:00 pm
Not an informative website -- no confirmation of venue (city) or date. Besides, info should also be posted here -- the BFS forum -- and the BFS website. Sadly, nada.

And I note that there doesn't seem to be anything about BFS's presence at this year's WFC (at least not in the Events tab). This lack of news isn't putting the society in a favourable light.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on August 06, 2013, 07:53:31 pm
Well no, it's a placeholder website that was set up last year (and a good thing it was too - I've seen another bunch trying to use the name Fantasycon 2014 for an event in Vegas). I'm not surprised at the lack of detail so far - I'm used to the details of the next FantasyCon being announced at the AGM.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: LeeH on August 09, 2013, 12:06:54 pm
Hi all,

FantasyCon next year will indeed be held in York. It's not usual for details of the following year's FantasyCon to be announced over a year in advance, but anyone who signs up for more information on the placeholder site at fantasycon2014.org will get details as soon as we are able to release them (dates, actual venue, guests, etc).

I expect the first announcements to be made this month.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on September 01, 2013, 10:46:59 am
Fantasycon 2014 but not our Fantasycon 2014:

http://fantasyproject.com/

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on September 01, 2013, 01:12:15 pm
Yes, that's the one I mentioned above, and which is also discussed in this thread: http://www.britishfantasysociety.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3625.0

I commented on their YouTube promo video a while back, and their response was interesting: we knew about your FantasyCon, but our lawyers told us you couldn't stop us using the name, "so we moved ahead".

Because of course if something's not actually forbidden by law, you should just go ahead and do it! They said I was the 500th person to tell them about it, so you wonder how many people have to mention it before they actually listen.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on September 01, 2013, 03:55:09 pm
From their website: "Fantasy Con is the world's premier Fantasy Focused convention". One wonders what the World Fantasy Convention is all about. And why the capital F in "Focused"? And shouldn't that be "Fantasy-focused" with or without the capital F?
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Jilly Paddock on September 05, 2013, 01:58:31 pm
Maybe we should call the UK version the Real FantasyCon 2014? If nothing else, it should annoy the hell out of the pretenders.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on September 05, 2013, 02:21:53 pm
Maybe we should call the UK version the Real FantasyCon 2014? If nothing else, it should annoy the hell out of the pretenders.

 :)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on September 22, 2013, 06:24:16 pm
FantasyCon 2014 Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/FantasyCon2014
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on September 30, 2013, 06:19:07 pm
First announcements! (http://fantasycon2014.createsend1.com/t/ViewEmail/i/4433ECD5A8D5AA36/BCFC151B370FD4722540EF23F30FEDED)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on October 02, 2013, 02:58:52 pm
Surprised that this link hasn't been posted before now (at least I can't see it):

http://www.fantasycon2014.org/

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: jim mcleod on October 02, 2013, 03:51:39 pm
Already booked my holiday for this  ;D
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: benedictjjones on October 11, 2013, 04:58:24 pm
^think i'd better do that and pay for a ticket asap so nothing can get in the way!
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: ianink on October 12, 2013, 11:26:05 am


http://www.fantasycon2014.org/



The venue looks great. It would make a great setting for a convention-wide Cluedo game.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Steven Chapman on November 19, 2013, 06:03:16 pm
Tickets and hotel booked - looking forward to this one :D
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Ramsey Campbell on December 21, 2013, 12:04:38 pm
So do we simply book accommodation directly with the hotel? Is there a Fantasycon room rate?
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on December 21, 2013, 04:21:05 pm
As far as I know Ramsey, rooms haven't been released as yet. I'll check with Lee.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on December 21, 2013, 07:14:46 pm
I was wondering about room booking too, Peter. I've heard several people say they've already booked. But when I checked the hotel out online it is very expensive. I was hoping there'd be a reduced FCon rate. Keep us posted, please!  :)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Allen on December 22, 2013, 12:31:42 pm
Just booked for me and Sarah to attend. Can't have an F Con without me!
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Ramsey Campbell on December 22, 2013, 06:01:49 pm
Just booked for me and Sarah to attend. Can't have an F Con without me!

Was there a convention rate, Allen?
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on December 22, 2013, 06:28:10 pm
Just booked for me and Sarah to attend. Can't have an F Con without me!

Was there a convention rate, Allen?

There's nothing on the website, Ramsey. I've just emailed the organisers to see if there is going to be a special rate for the con. Otherwise, I guess we just have to book direct with the hotel (or via one of those room booking sites). I don't want to wait too long and miss out - especially since I've seen several people say they've already booked rooms.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on December 22, 2013, 08:43:36 pm
As far as I know there will be a convention rate but I haven't had this confirmed yet. Lee? It does concern me a bit that if the hotel takes too many bookings now there won't be (m)any rooms at a lower rate.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Andrew Hook on December 23, 2013, 09:09:24 am
I've booked the convention for me & Sophie, but we're waiting on the discounted room rate to book the hotel. If it isn't discounted, we'll find somewhere else I'm sure at a fraction of the price :)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Allen on December 23, 2013, 01:21:14 pm
I haven't booked rooms yet just registered for the convention. Like everybody else, I'm waiting to see if there will be a special convention rate.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Mike Chinn on December 23, 2013, 02:01:06 pm
I haven't booked rooms yet just registered for the convention. Like everybody else, I'm waiting to see if there will be a special convention rate.

Same here.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on December 23, 2013, 02:13:19 pm
I haven't booked rooms yet just registered for the convention. Like everybody else, I'm waiting to see if there will be a special convention rate.

Same here.

Looks like we're all in the same position. I would definitely like to book for the hotel as soon as possible.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on December 24, 2013, 03:02:18 pm
Lee says he'll be posting info as soon as possible. Keep checking:

http://www.fantasycon2014.org/

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Billy on January 06, 2014, 12:57:19 am
Too expensive  ::) I will look elsewhere.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 06, 2014, 10:22:05 am
The hotel is expensive - but I've decided to treat myself to just one night there, so I've booked. It'll be like a little weekend break for me - a bit of a holiday. Looking forward to it.  :)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Andrew Hook on January 06, 2014, 02:36:22 pm
Yup - that discount isn't a huge discount so we've booked elsewhere (5 minutes walk away) at £75 a night.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Mike Chinn on January 07, 2014, 05:34:52 pm
Yup - that discount isn't a huge discount so we've booked elsewhere (5 minutes walk away) at £75 a night.

Gone for the Ibis - also 5 minutes away - £130 for two nights, including breakfast.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 07, 2014, 08:41:50 pm
At this rate it looks like I'll have the con hotel almost to myself!  :D
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Mike Chinn on January 08, 2014, 11:33:39 am
At this rate it looks like I'll have the con hotel almost to myself!  :D

No charging down the corridors on your tricycle!
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 08, 2014, 02:17:02 pm
At this rate it looks like I'll have the con hotel almost to myself!  :D

No charging down the corridors on your tricycle!

Spoilsport!   ;D
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Steven Chapman on January 08, 2014, 02:20:53 pm
I'm staying in the con hotel as well...that means we can dress up as the Grady twins :D
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on January 09, 2014, 02:36:34 pm
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lZblmta4GtA/Us6zVNwYPeI/AAAAAAAADak/2XcXoaLrqg4/s1600/Charlaine+Harris+2.jpg)

Fantasycon 2014 is thrilled to announce that Charlaine Harris will be joining as a Guest of Honour at FantasyCon in York from the 5-7 September, 2014. She joins existing Guests of Honour, Kate Elliott, Larry Rostant and Toby Whithouse.

Charlaine is a New York Times bestselling author, who has been writing for over thirty years. She is perhaps best known as the creator of the Sookie Stackhouse series of urban fantasy novels, which have been translated into over thirty languages, and which were adapted by HBO as the TV series, True Blood. Her new novel - Midnight Crossroad - is published by Gollancz in May 2014.

Charlaine Harris appears due to the generous support of her UK publishers, Gollancz (part of the Orion Publishing Group).



Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on January 09, 2014, 03:48:13 pm
The con hotel was a too expensive for us too, especially with all four Theakers coming this year. I'm a bit worried about whether I'll actually be able to get them out of the other hotel and over to this one for the convention, but they've promised to be good.

Ranjna hasn't much enjoyed her previous FantasyCons - the shouty white pubness of the bar areas being a real sticking point - but she likes what the organisers have been saying about their plans for this one, especially on inclusivity.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 09, 2014, 06:51:31 pm
Ranjna hasn't much enjoyed her previous FantasyCons - the shouty white pubness of the bar areas being a real sticking point - but she likes what the organisers have been saying about their plans for this one, especially on inclusivity.

I'm not keen on all the noise and "pubness" (I don't drink) so if Ranjna wants someone to chat to in a quiet space while she's there I'd be happy to join her, Stephen.  :)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on January 09, 2014, 06:57:47 pm
Thanks, I'm sure she would like that.

It'll be interesting to have the children along with us. Both are bookworms and love writing and art. They'll have their Kindles along for anything that bores them. We'll be taking them to the banquet, I think, assuming there is one as usual, and negotiations have already begun regarding the cost of the party dresses we will be buying. And of course we love their company more than anything else in the world, so having them along will inevitably make the event much more fun for Ranjna and me.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Andrew Hook on January 10, 2014, 10:44:40 am
It'll be interesting to have the children along with us.  And of course we love their company more than anything else in the world, so having them along will inevitably make the event much more fun for Ranjna and me.

That's actually very sweet. I must admit I tend to use conventions to get away from my kids for a relaxing weekend, bless them!
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on January 18, 2014, 06:04:49 pm
Co-chair Sophia McDougall has blogged about plans for the convention:

http://sophiamcdougall.com/2014/01/18/fantasycon-2014-and-why-you-should-come/

All sounds good to me!
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: johnny mains on January 18, 2014, 10:01:04 pm
Won't be going this year.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 19, 2014, 08:50:34 pm
Won't be going this year.

That's a pity, Johnny - was looking forward to seeing you again.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: johnny mains on January 19, 2014, 10:21:08 pm
Cost and that inane blogpost has pretty much sealed the deal. If I want to see dress up, I'll take Marnie to Disneyworld.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on January 19, 2014, 10:40:13 pm
Cost and that inane blogpost has pretty much sealed the deal. If I want to see dress up, I'll take Marnie to Disneyworld.

The cost doesn't bother me (and there is cheaper accommodation available nearby in York). What does is that "inane blogpost." I hope we haven't made a mistake in booking this year. Though at the worst it will be a great opportunity to meet up with old friends again. That';s something which even the most outrageous con organisers can't spoil.   ;)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 19, 2014, 11:19:05 pm
I must admit, I've only just read that stuff about "fancy dress" at FCon this evening - since my last post here. And I, too, am now wondering if I've made a mistake booking to go to it. FCon is supposed to be a serious literary convention - not one of those silly dress-up-as-a-stormtrooper cons!  :-\ That's not my cup of tea at all.

I was also concerned about the mention of SFF, not SFFH - has horror been sidelined this year? If so, apart from - as David says - the chance to meet up and chat with folk, then there won't be much for me there either.

I think there was an option to click on a link and tell the organisers what we wanted at FCon. Perhaps we'd best all go and tell them what we want ...  ;)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 20, 2014, 12:14:40 am
Apparently, Sophie has replied on her blog. It seems we may be worrying unnecessarily - she was referring to SFF as being inclusive of horror, and it doesn't sound like the cosplay element is going to have a high profile. Phew!
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on January 20, 2014, 08:00:46 am
The last three FantasyCons only happened thanks to last minute rescues, so mainly I'm just happy anyone has volunteered to run it at all! But everything she says sounds very positive. Contributing a small amount to the World Travel Fund is a brilliant idea, so is a proper harassment policy. For writers, a sword fight and costume display could be very useful. Greater diversity on panels too.

Listening to some panels at previous FantasyCons felt like stepping into a time bubble. I want to attend panels like the fascinating screenwriting panel in 2012, that tell me things I didn't know five years ago. I want to hear the ideas of people I haven't heard on six panels already that weekend. I want panels on hot button topics, with people on them who care passionately about those topics, people who are the key players in those discussions.

People are constantly arguing online. I want to see those arguments in the flesh!

I'm not thrilled about the cost of the hotel, but for years people have been saying they wanted FantasyCon to take place in a better hotel than a Britannia, and the things people didn't like about the Britannia chain are the things that make it cheap. The convention itself is still unbelievably cheap, especially for BFS members.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Des Lewis on January 20, 2014, 09:05:23 am
Well, judging by what I've now read so far, I am personally glad that I am actually not able to attend. But I do hope everyone enjoys it and it's fruitful for them. I have missed many people by not attending these cons recently and I hope to attend again one day.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on January 20, 2014, 09:34:25 am
I'm certainly not in the camp of those who disliked the Britannia. Then again the first fantasycons I attended were at the Imperial in Birmingham, long razed to the ground unfortunately. That was cheap and cheerful. Though these days we can afford to stay in better hotels ourselves and have already booked a room in York at the convention hotel for the Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights, I would prefer the convention to be held somewhere accessible and cheap so that we can maximise membership. The Britannia in Nottingham to my mind was perfect - or at least perfect enough. Who cares how luxurious the bedrooms are? Who spends much time in them at conventions anyway? If you do, you're missing out on what you've paid to be there for.

I don't like the Harassment Policy. Not because I object to anyone guilty of such conduct being dealt with, but because making it such a major issue is wrong when, so far as I am aware, we have never had a problem over it. Plus, convention organisers have always had the power to deal with any infringements - if such ever occurred.

Included in this policy is this:  "Exhibitors are also subject to the anti-harassment policy. In particular, exhibitors should not use sexualised images, activities, or other material. Dealer room staff (including volunteers) should not use sexualised clothing / uniforms / costumes, or otherwise create a sexualised environment."

Has whoever wrote this ever been to a fantasy convention?

To say I am not impressed by the whole tone of the co-chair's comments would be an understatement. I hope things work out better than these indicate - I'm sure they will, because the rest of us have more commonsense. And I'll still be attending. I just do not like the politicised tone of some of the comments made and the impression I get that the convention this time is not there for the members' benefit and enjoyment but to push certain issues.

Parity of panels? Come on, the organisers have always decided who goes on panels from the list of those who volunteer to go on them and its been up to them to strike whatever parity is possible, given the most important choice surely should be over picking people who are judged best to be on them, whoever they are. If there's not always or even rarely been what some would look on as parity, surely that's because of the general make-up of those volunteering to go on them. And by the way I have no personal stake over this as I never volunteer to go on panels. I would be useless at it.



 
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Jen on January 20, 2014, 10:28:35 am
The last three FantasyCons only happened thanks to last minute rescues, so mainly I'm just happy anyone has volunteered to run it at all! But everything she says sounds very positive. Contributing a small amount to the World Travel Fund is a brilliant idea, so is a proper harassment policy. For writers, a sword fight and costume display could be very useful. Greater diversity on panels too.

Listening to some panels at previous FantasyCons felt like stepping into a time bubble. I want to attend panels like the fascinating screenwriting panel in 2012, that tell me things I didn't know five years ago. I want to hear the ideas of people I haven't heard on six panels already that weekend. I want panels on hot button topics, with people on them who care passionately about those topics, people who are the key players in those discussions.

People are constantly arguing online. I want to see those arguments in the flesh!

I'm not thrilled about the cost of the hotel, but for years people have been saying they wanted FantasyCon to take place in a better hotel than a Britannia, and the things people didn't like about the Britannia chain are the things that make it cheap. The convention itself is still unbelievably cheap, especially for BFS members.

Yes! All of that! Which is why I'm really looking forward to Fcon this time (even if it does mean working like a maniac to afford the hotel!)  ;)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on January 20, 2014, 10:33:12 am
Included in this policy is this:  "Exhibitors are also subject to the anti-harassment policy. In particular, exhibitors should not use sexualised images, activities, or other material. Dealer room staff (including volunteers) should not use sexualised clothing / uniforms / costumes, or otherwise create a sexualised environment."

I'm thinking of all those lurid S&S and heroic fantasy book covers -- plain brown paper bags required? It'll be like the top shelf in the local newsagent.

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Des Lewis on January 20, 2014, 10:34:57 am
Included in this policy is this:  "Exhibitors are also subject to the anti-harassment policy. In particular, exhibitors should not use sexualised images, activities, or other material. Dealer room staff (including volunteers) should not use sexualised clothing / uniforms / costumes, or otherwise create a sexualised environment."

Does this mean that Horror Literature needs now to cease being what could be seen as what, at least in part, it has always been: (constructive) harassment on all sorts of imaginative levels or provocative metaphors of nightmare or bodily-violation or sexuality or fractal / spectral dislocation or fear / frisson?
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on January 20, 2014, 10:43:17 am

I don't like the Harassment Policy. Not because I object to anyone guilty of such conduct being dealt with, but because making it such a major issue is wrong when, so far as I am aware, we have never had a problem over it. Plus, convention organisers have always had the power to deal with any infringements - if such ever occurred.


We have had one or two incidents of boorish behaviour in the past. One time when I was chair I called the hotel staff and had the person ejected. Another time, when Jan was in charge, she -- um -- put the culprit right. No written policy in those days -- just common sense.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 20, 2014, 10:50:28 am
Another time, when Jan was in charge, she -- um -- put the culprit right. No written policy in those days -- just common sense.

So that's what we need then - Jan as the FCon "bouncer"!  :D

Seriously, though, I hadn't realised there had been such incidents in the past. This just goes to show that things like this can be dealt with sensibly and, in a way, "invisibly" - without fuss, and using common sense.

Included in this policy is this:  "Exhibitors are also subject to the anti-harassment policy. In particular, exhibitors should not use sexualised images, activities, or other material. Dealer room staff (including volunteers) should not use sexualised clothing / uniforms / costumes, or otherwise create a sexualised environment."

Does this mean that Horror Literature needs now to cease being what could be seen as what, at least in part, it has always been: (constructive) harassment on all sorts of imaginative levels or provocative metaphors of nightmare or bodily-violation or sexuality or fractal / spectral dislocation or fear / frisson?

Quite, Des. I think with a policy like this they're taking things way too far and seem to be confusing fact with fiction.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Jen on January 20, 2014, 10:51:41 am
I don't like the Harassment Policy. Not because I object to anyone guilty of such conduct being dealt with, but because making it such a major issue is wrong when, so far as I am aware, we have never had a problem over it. Plus, convention organisers have always had the power to deal with any infringements - if such ever occurred.

Actually Fantasycon has had a problem with harassment for quite a few years but for various reasons the victims of it felt unwilling or unable to make formal complaints to organisers - who, naturally, can't deal with them if they don't know about them. And these victims range from young newbies to seasoned professionals who decide to either not come back or work out buddy systems with the people they did feel safe about talking to, so they can attempt to enjoy the convention with friendly bodyguards to stand between them and the frequent harassers.

Having a firm harrassment policy makes it clear that there are definite protections in place and that gives the victims the security of knowing that it's safe to speak about any incident to the organisers.

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Included in this policy is this:  "Exhibitors are also subject to the anti-harassment policy. In particular, exhibitors should not use sexualised images, activities, or other material. Dealer room staff (including volunteers) should not use sexualised clothing / uniforms / costumes, or otherwise create a sexualised environment."
Has whoever wrote this ever been to a fantasy convention?

Read her post on the SFX Weekender here - http://sophiamcdougall.livejournal.com/18005.html - especially this bit about exhibiters that included "all those half-naked women on stilts, (not cosplayers doing it for the thrills, entertainment paid for by the con) roaming around, and no half-naked men on stilts. And I wouldn’t mind that so much if there hadn’t also been girls wearing nothing but flashing lights strapped to their breasts and groins, dancing on the stage for the crowd’s edification at the final disco."  

Something that any sane convention should avoid doing.
 
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on January 20, 2014, 10:54:06 am

I don't like the Harassment Policy. Not because I object to anyone guilty of such conduct being dealt with, but because making it such a major issue is wrong when, so far as I am aware, we have never had a problem over it. Plus, convention organisers have always had the power to deal with any infringements - if such ever occurred.


We have had one or two incidents of boorish behaviour in the past. One time when I was chair I called the hotel staff and had the person ejected. Another time, when Jan was in charge, she -- um -- put the culprit right. No written policy in those days -- just common sense.


This is exactly what I would expect to happen. Which makes me sad to see it blown up on the Fantasycon website, implying that there may be a deep-rooted underlying problem which requires radical action to eradicate. Which it doesn't. Just common-sense, as Peter says.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Jen on January 20, 2014, 10:58:16 am
Seriously, though, I hadn't realised there had been such incidents in the past. This just goes to show that things like this can be dealt with sensibly and, in a way, "invisibly" - without fuss, and using common sense.

Dealing with things invisibly is why people think they can keep getting away with sexual harassment because if they do get caught no one will make a fuss and they can carry on because the weight of support is for the poor harasser who was either a) a bit drunk (which still doesn't make it ok)  or b) just being themselves  or any of the other ridiculous excuses that get thrown out to minimise the fact that there was an actual person being harassed who has the right to go to a convention and not have to deal with it in the first place.

Firm harassment policies are a notice that behaviour that was gotten away with in the past will not be tolerated now.  
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on January 20, 2014, 11:01:36 am
Thing is, Jenny, some people will never complain of harassment even if there is a written policy. The way to allow people to make complaints about such things is not a written policy but organisers that are open and approachable. A written policy is worthless if the "bosses" refuse to listen (think about all the stuff going on in the news right now).


 
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Jen on January 20, 2014, 11:08:14 am
Thing is, Jenny, some people will never complain of harassment even if there is a written policy. The way to allow people to make complaints about such things is not a written policy but organisers that are open and approachable. A written policy is worthless if the "bosses" refuse to listen (think about all the stuff going on in the news right now).
 

But a written policy means more people will have the confidence to say something to organisers because it carries the implication that someone at the top actually cares about this stuff.  First time con-goers won't automatically know if organisers are open and approachable, all they'll see is the cliquey groups of people who already know each other and are more likely to back up the harasser because they're old buddies. 

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on January 20, 2014, 11:13:58 am


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Included in this policy is this:  "Exhibitors are also subject to the anti-harassment policy. In particular, exhibitors should not use sexualised images, activities, or other material. Dealer room staff (including volunteers) should not use sexualised clothing / uniforms / costumes, or otherwise create a sexualised environment."
Has whoever wrote this ever been to a fantasy convention?

Read her post on the SFX Weekender here - http://sophiamcdougall.livejournal.com/18005.html - especially this bit about exhibiters that included "all those half-naked women on stilts, (not cosplayers doing it for the thrills, entertainment paid for by the con) roaming around, and no half-naked men on stilts. And I wouldn’t mind that so much if there hadn’t also been girls wearing nothing but flashing lights strapped to their breasts and groins, dancing on the stage for the crowd’s edification at the final disco."  

Something that any sane convention should avoid doing.
 


"paid for by the con"

Something that would never happen at Fantasycon, I'm sure.

Baggy t-shirts, old pullovers and shapeless jeans are more the norm for dealers at Fantasycon in my experience. A less sexy mob I could hardly imagine!   :D
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on January 20, 2014, 11:21:06 am
Have members of previous conventions been expelled for inappropriate behaviour?

If so, how many?

Are there any records of complaints over harassment? I'm appalled if there have been, though maybe that's a sign of the times we live in.

What kinds of inappropriate behaviour have there been?

I wouldn't be surprised if drunkenness didn't play a large part. Heavy drinking has always played a large part in conventions for some people. A difficult issue being that there are sometimes bars open all night long and drink is available all day. Some people struggle to cope with this, I know.

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on January 20, 2014, 11:32:37 am
I agree with everything Jen has said. Having a harassment policy sets a standard that the organisers will be expected to live up to. It's a promise to attendees. The FantasyCon chairs haven't pulled this out of nowhere - it was a big issue all last year and harassment policies are quickly becoming standard practice at sf/fantasy conventions:

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/07/02/my-new-convention-harassment-policy/
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/07/03/my-convention-harassment-policy-co-sign-thread/
http://jimhines.dreamwidth.org/257025.html
http://jimhines.dreamwidth.org/258644.html
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Mike Chinn on January 20, 2014, 11:41:08 am
Included in this policy is this:  "Exhibitors are also subject to the anti-harassment policy. In particular, exhibitors should not use sexualised images, activities, or other material. Dealer room staff (including volunteers) should not use sexualised clothing / uniforms / costumes, or otherwise create a sexualised environment."

I'm thinking of all those lurid S&S and heroic fantasy book covers -- plain brown paper bags required? It'll be like the top shelf in the local newsagent.

Better not bring any copies of Swords Against the Millennium, then. And woe betide anyone trying to sell second-hand copies of the Lancer/Sphere Conan books with the Frazetta covers: the thought police will be in there like a shot...
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Mike Chinn on January 20, 2014, 11:42:30 am

I don't like the Harassment Policy. Not because I object to anyone guilty of such conduct being dealt with, but because making it such a major issue is wrong when, so far as I am aware, we have never had a problem over it. Plus, convention organisers have always had the power to deal with any infringements - if such ever occurred.


We have had one or two incidents of boorish behaviour in the past. One time when I was chair I called the hotel staff and had the person ejected. Another time, when Jan was in charge, she -- um -- put the culprit right. No written policy in those days -- just common sense.


And a big stick... ;-)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 20, 2014, 11:47:06 am
I'm not sure this is an argument against FCon having a harassment policy per se, more an argument about the contents of that policy. I do understand the need for a written harassment policy - and I fully support the arguments that this helps people feel that they are welcome to report harassment (and also enables potential harassers see that they will be dealt with). But my argument is about the way this has been worded - it seems to take it to extremes. The bit about exhibited artwork being a case in point. Fantasy and horror artwork/book covers often do contain images which might be construed as "sexualised". So are they to be banned from the con? That seems very OTT to me.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on January 20, 2014, 12:25:40 pm
I'm not sure this is an argument against FCon having a harassment policy per se, more an argument about the contents of that policy. I do understand the need for a written harassment policy - and I fully support the arguments that this helps people feel that they are welcome to report harassment (and also enables potential harassers see that they will be dealt with). But my argument is about the way this has been worded - it seems to take it to extremes. The bit about exhibited artwork being a case in point. Fantasy and horror artwork/book covers often do contain images which might be construed as "sexualised". So are they to be banned from the con? That seems very OTT to me.

You've hit the nail on the head, Caroline. It's one thing protecting individuals from being harassed (which, whatever the wording says, still depends on the proactive involvement of convention officials to make it work) it's another to make vague demands on exhibited artwork, etc., especially in an area like fantasy and horror. I would hate to see some over-officious con attendee using this as a pretext to demand certain pieces of artwork or book covers banned. Or even someone who has a grudge against any particular artist or book-dealer.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Mike Chinn on January 20, 2014, 04:05:08 pm
You've hit the nail on the head, Caroline. It's one thing protecting individuals from being harassed (which, whatever the wording says, still depends on the proactive involvement of convention officials to make it work) it's another to make vague demands on exhibited artwork, etc., especially in an area like fantasy and horror. I would hate to see some over-officious con attendee using this as a pretext to demand certain pieces of artwork or book covers banned. Or even someone who has a grudge against any particular artist or book-dealer.

The language needs to be tightened - made more specific; otherwise, sure as shootin', some self-appointed jobsworth will make it his/her job to find fault.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Debbie on January 22, 2014, 06:47:49 pm
I'm *so* in two minds now. All three of us were planning on coming, which means two hotel rooms and I don't want to leave Clare on her own in strange hotel, even if she will be 18 by then - yes - scary, that, isn't it? She was two at her first FCon! But two rooms for two nights is ludicrously expensive.

Oh and can somebody own up to running the bank account because I'm *still* getting the statements!
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on January 22, 2014, 08:44:24 pm
There are some cheaper hotels quite close to the con hotel, Debbie. Hope you can make it.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: GaryC on January 27, 2014, 08:18:17 am
We have had one or two incidents of boorish behaviour in the past. One time when I was chair I called the hotel staff and had the person ejected.

If that's the incident I think it was, I remember it vividly, as I was sitting two rows behind you and him, and one row behind the person on the receiving end of his behaviour. Twenty years ago this year. The only time I ever remember hearing you swear.

But yes, as others have said, a policy does make it clear that certain behaviour is not acceptable. I don't know who the three harrassers at World Fantasy were, as I didn't witness any of the incidents myself, but I do know someone who was one of those harrassed. And being drunk or "being himself" is not okay as a reason for this.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Wayne Mook on February 11, 2014, 12:54:04 am
As Jen pointed out with her links, a code of conduct is expected. Some authors will not join as guests unless there is one.

Usually the arbiter of what is allowed are the Con staff, but let's face it some of the old school pulp is near the knuckle.

To be honest the old Conan stuff can be embarrassing. It is the thing people point at as what is bad about our genres, but where do draw the line on the old stuff. Tarzan is much the same.

Some of the trade shows look bad, so I guess it's time fans made a stand before the companies sell us out.


Wayne.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Wayne Mook on February 11, 2014, 12:55:16 am
Just a quick note, I've booked and will be at the can with Nadia & Aysha, we are staying at the Ibis though.


Wayne.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Dave Brzeski on February 11, 2014, 11:33:51 am
Just a quick note, I've booked and will be at the can with Nadia & Aysha, we are staying at the Ibis though.


Wayne.

Jilly & I booked yesterday too & will also be at the Ibis. Looking forward to seeing you both again.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Mike Chinn on February 11, 2014, 12:46:47 pm
Just a quick note, I've booked and will be at the can with Nadia & Aysha, we are staying at the Ibis though.


Wayne.

Jilly & I booked yesterday too & will also be at the Ibis. Looking forward to seeing you both again.

Sounds like there's going to be a mini-con at the Ibis.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on February 11, 2014, 12:56:18 pm
I suspect the Ibis will do very well out of FantasyCon  ;)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on May 11, 2014, 06:23:36 pm
I have to limit myself to occasional visits to Twitter else I'd be there all day, so I've only just spotted that there is fairly recent activity regarding FantasyCon there. Come on, please put updates on the BFS forum as well. Thanks. (The FantasyCon website needs updating, too :-) )
 
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on May 11, 2014, 07:46:24 pm
I have to limit myself to occasional visits to Twitter else I'd be there all day, so I've only just spotted that there is fairly recent activity regarding FantasyCon there. Come on, please put updates on the BFS forum as well. Thanks. (The FantasyCon website needs updating, too :-) )
 

Good point, Peter. What are the updates about? I'm not a Twitter user at all (couldn't figure out how to use it  :-\)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Des Lewis on May 12, 2014, 07:27:26 am
I have to limit myself to occasional visits to Twitter else I'd be there all day, so I've only just spotted that there is fairly recent activity regarding FantasyCon there. Come on, please put updates on the BFS forum as well. Thanks. (The FantasyCon website needs updating, too :-) )
 

Good point, Peter. What are the updates about? I'm not a Twitter user at all (couldn't figure out how to use it  :-\)

I depend on this official forum for all BFS news or links to BFS news and any thoughts from Chairman or President on any outstanding matters.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on May 12, 2014, 07:40:42 am
The FantasyCon 2014 Twitter feed is here - you don't have to be a Twitter user to view it: https://twitter.com/FantasyCon2014
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Des Lewis on May 12, 2014, 07:45:27 am
The FantasyCon 2014 Twitter feed is here - you don't have to be a Twitter user to view it: https://twitter.com/FantasyCon2014

Thanks for that, but aren't some of the comments 'in the air' as it were, without context?
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on May 12, 2014, 07:52:01 am
If you want to see the question that provoked a reply, or the replies to a tweet, just click on the text of that tweet and the conversation will open up.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Des Lewis on May 12, 2014, 07:55:02 am
If you want to see the question that provoked a reply, or the replies to a tweet, just click on the text of that tweet and the conversation will open up.

Thanks, I didn't know that.
But wouldn't it be more sensible for all info to be on this BFS Forum used by all, questions and answers, rather than what I imagine is now split between Twitter and Facebook. Some people have phobias or irritation about going to either of those sites and navigating them, perhaps.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on May 12, 2014, 08:39:57 am
The FantasyCon team were asked a quick question on Twitter, they answered it on Twitter - seems sensible to me. There are plenty of alternative ways to contact them, for people who don't use Twitter.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Des Lewis on May 12, 2014, 08:55:20 am
The FantasyCon team were asked a quick question on Twitter, they answered it on Twitter - seems sensible to me. There are plenty of alternative ways to contact them, for people who don't use Twitter.

I would be in favour of a central hub for BFS business that concerns all members, and this Forum was designed for that, was it not? Searching, say, Facebook, Twitter etc combined with individual emails seems a counterproductive system to me.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on May 12, 2014, 09:23:53 am
I've said so before and I repeat here: social media sites -- Twitter and Facebook, for example -- are not the places for important news stories, updates, what have you. Those places are mainly for chit chat and moans. The BFS and Fantasycon have websites and a forum. These are the places to post, and posting on this forum is dead easy.

What's the membership level now, by the way? It was last updated in February. Thanks.

Will there be an art show this year?

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on May 12, 2014, 09:30:41 am
I couldn't agree more, Peter. It seems a sad reflection on the con committee's priorities re communication that twitter gets preference seemingly over the BFS's own forum. This should be the premier discussion site for BFS related issues, not social media like twitter or facebook.

It's no wonder that usage of the forum isn't better than it is.

Even senior members of the BFS's own committee seem reluctant to make use of the forum and seem ignorant of any complaints made here or any issues that should really be dealt with.

It would be nice if someone responsible for matters like this were to come on here or even make statements on the official BFS site about things like when the site will be up and running properly again. It's looked a dismal mess for ages now with only reviews being added to it and the very, very occasional snippet of news. As a showcase for the society it's worse than I remember it ever being before.

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Des Lewis on May 12, 2014, 11:23:25 am
We have said all these things before here about using the Forum for what it is intended but nothing seems to happen. It would only need official announcements on Twitter, Facebook etc that all news and queries should in future be on the BFS Forum for this to happen, I'd say.
We have had one welcome visit here from the President some months ago which left some loose ends. (http://www.britishfantasysociety.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3681.msg28998#msg28998) That's all I can remember.

Edited to correct link
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: John Travis on May 20, 2014, 03:21:26 pm
Does anyone know if I can pay for my registration by cheque, and if so, who to pay it to and their address? Have emailed the chair about this but haven't had a reply, and would like to get it done before the price goes up on the first.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on May 20, 2014, 04:11:54 pm
Yes, it does say on the website that you can pay by cheque, and says to email the chair if you want to, so if you've done that I'd just wait for a reply.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: John Travis on May 25, 2014, 04:20:50 pm
Have been waiting now almost two weeks for a reply, but nothing. Has anyone else paid by cheque and can give me the details? Have just tried to use the online system for paying but couldn't get it to work. Would really like to get this sorted before 1st June. Thank you.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: GraemeReynolds on June 09, 2014, 10:07:16 am
Is anyone actually bothering to read the emails or twitter account anymore? I sent a query in about advertising over two weeks ago and have had no response whatsoever. The website has not been updated since February and considering that this con starts in less than three months its all gone really rather quiet.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on June 09, 2014, 10:26:58 am
Is anyone actually bothering to read the emails or twitter account anymore? I sent a query in about advertising over two weeks ago and have had no response whatsoever. The website has not been updated since February and considering that this con starts in less than three months its all gone really rather quiet.


The silence is worrying
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on June 09, 2014, 11:22:52 am
Although I booked ages ago I am having serious second thoughts about whether to go.

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: GraemeReynolds on June 09, 2014, 12:07:44 pm
From talking to other people, the chair@ email address has not been answered for months and for a while the twitter account was usable as a method of contact, that one seems to have gone silent as well. There has not been, as far as I am aware, any communications sent out about advertising, about readings, about programming or panel slots. People are applying for memberships and getting no reply. Website has not been updated since February. Beginning to get a sense of doom over this convention, because it really does feel like no one is steering the ship anymore.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: FrazerLee on June 09, 2014, 02:57:33 pm
No replies to my 3 emails either (1st email sent in March).

Think I'll save my pennies for World Horror Con next year instead.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: John Travis on June 09, 2014, 03:29:58 pm
I've had no replies either. In the end I got someone to help me out and I booked the thing on PayPal. FCon means a lot to me, which is why I persisted with it. I think if this had been my first look at FCon I wouldn't have taken things any further.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: CarolineC on June 09, 2014, 06:07:59 pm
Wow, this sounds bad! I'm going because it's so close to me (already booked, and I think I'm on the list of attending members). But I'd be having serious second thoughts about it otherwise.

I did notice from Facebook that Lee is now away - don't know how long for. But isn't there a co-chair - Sophia somebody?

This really doesn't bode well at all ....  :-\
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: GraemeReynolds on June 09, 2014, 06:50:50 pm
Well, they just responded to the twitter post I made, so looks like there is someone in after all. Apparently they have had some reports of emails going astray and are looking into it
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: David A. Riley on June 09, 2014, 07:07:44 pm
I tend to put excuses about emails going astray on a par with the dog ate my homework.  :(
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: GraemeReynolds on June 09, 2014, 07:32:02 pm
Should be amusing when they configure their email client properly and have four or five months worth to suddenly deal with :) They might even get through them all before the con starts  ;D
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Debbie on June 09, 2014, 10:00:16 pm
Hmmm. The point of going was to maybe sell some of Andy's glass work and my books, but at another *£60* for a dealer table, it's just not going to be economically viable. Just as well I've not booked any accommodation yet as I'm not sure I can afford it.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: LeeH on June 09, 2014, 10:11:38 pm
I tend to put excuses about emails going astray on a par with the dog ate my homework.  :(

I'd tend to agree. In this case, however, they didn't go astray. Around a dozen or so emails were mis-categorised as spam by an over-eager filter. Most of them are sorted, now.  :)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: LeeH on June 09, 2014, 10:13:25 pm
Hmmm. The point of going was to maybe sell some of Andy's glass work and my books, but at another *£60* for a dealer table, it's just not going to be economically viable. Just as well I've not booked any accommodation yet as I'm not sure I can afford it.

We're looking at some cheaper options. There will be cheaper tables outside the main dealer room (but stock will need to be removed from the table each night), and we're going to be offering the opportunity for people to share tables inside the dealer room - ideal for anyone with a smaller selection. Full details will be sent in a pack later this week.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: GraemeReynolds on June 10, 2014, 09:09:09 am
Thanks for sorting it all out, Lee.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Peter Coleborn on June 10, 2014, 10:22:40 am
Thanks for the recent emails about the dealers' room. Good that things are moving along again. I have to say that £60 for a table is steep -- perhaps it includes membership for the dealer? When Jan and Debbie and Mike and I ran the con we gave free memberships to dealers since we figured that they were part of the reason of going to the convention. But I know that many cons now charge extra -- a sign of the times...
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014 - silence
Post by: Paul Campbell on July 01, 2014, 04:41:28 pm
Anyone else tried to contact Fantasycon recently?

They emailed out the attendee list on 6th June, asking folks to email    
fantasycon2014 [at] gmail.com if there were any issues.

I took out a joint £70 non-BFS membership on 8th December, but only my name appears on the list, not my wife Audrey's.

So I emailed them.

Waited one week.

No reply.

Emailed them again.

Waited another week.

Again, no reply.

So I emailed chair [at] fantasycon2014.org on Sunday 22nd June.

That was over a week ago.

Guess what? Yep, more tumbleweeds down Main Street.

You know, it's precisely this wall of silence that prompted me to initiate a PayPal claim 18 months ago and stop being a BFS member.

In the PayPal Special Instructions box for the joint Fantasycon membership, I put mine and Audrey's name - but then (as with the PayPal claim 18 months ago) probably no one read it.

Look, I get that it's a voluntary organisation (I volunteer myself the first handful of F'Cons I attended) but in the end you're still taking people's money. We're still paying for a service. Besides, you guys are the ones providing the email addresses urging people to get in contact!

And I ain't paying £70 for one F'Con membership.

I've met a few folks who've been to York and really loved it and, so - as with Brighton - Audrey and I are going for a week and plan to make a proper holiday out of it.

We're sure to have a good time. Irrespective of Fantasycon.

But if F'Con's going the same way as the BFS, then this will be my last Fantasycon.

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on July 01, 2014, 04:46:56 pm
Is it Audrey Campbell? Her name is on the attendees list: http://www.fantasycon2014.org/fantasycon-2014-attendees/#af
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Paul Campbell on July 01, 2014, 04:51:55 pm
Well, not the last time I checked yesterday, I've been checking for 3 weeks.

But, yep, her name's now there.

And, what, they couldn't drop a line saying, "Hey, all fixed!"

Instead, you've got to trawl the addentee list for 3 weeks...
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: jim mcleod on August 26, 2014, 05:54:28 pm
hello is there anyone out there?  What's the programming for the weekend?
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on August 26, 2014, 06:09:30 pm
They're expecting to release the schedule within the next day or two (https://twitter.com/FantasyCon2014/status/504294757691305984).
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: jim mcleod on August 26, 2014, 06:16:26 pm
And again is so hard for them to post here? 

If it wasn't for you Stephen I'd swear there wasn't a BFS. 
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on August 26, 2014, 07:29:38 pm
It's true that I'm awesome, but everything I've done this year is nothing compared to what goes into organising FantasyCon. And I can hardly fault anyone else for not using the forum to make announcements when I've just had a fifty-day break from it myself.

They've been sending out regular email updates to attendees, three this month, so I haven't felt uninformed about what's going on with the convention. I understand why it can take a while to get the programme nailed down, and it doesn't matter that much to me anyway when particular things are on, though I know it does to people trying to schedule meetings and stuff like that.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on August 27, 2014, 09:51:20 am
I've stickied a post to the top of this board to make it a bit clearer what it's for (i.e. talking *about* FantasyCon, rather that *to* FantasyCon), pointing people in the right direction if they need to talk to the FantasyCon team.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on August 28, 2014, 10:46:41 am
Simon Marshall-Jones writes in anticipation of FantasyCon 2014 for This Is Horror: http://www.thisishorror.co.uk/?p=12550
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on August 28, 2014, 05:16:04 pm
The FantasyCon schedule is up: http://www.fantasycon2014.org/the-schedule/
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Andrew Hook on August 29, 2014, 09:11:58 am
Schedule looks well-conceived and interesting...looking forward to this!
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on September 05, 2014, 08:43:00 am
About to set off, sadly without the other three Theakers (an exam on Saturday for the oldest spoilt our plans). See you all there.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Andrew Hook on September 08, 2014, 09:30:44 am
Had a great time at the convention this weekend. Thanks to everyone who organised it.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on September 08, 2014, 09:58:21 am
I loved Pointless and Just a Minute, and enjoyed the panel on sword-fighting. The guest of honour interviews with Charlaine Harris and Kate Elliott were very interesting, and I'll definitely be giving their books a try. The Super Relaxed Fantasy Club event was a bit happy-clappy for a grump like me, but it was an ideal evening event for people who didn't fancy the bar or the disco.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: jim mcleod on September 08, 2014, 12:32:49 pm
I had a fabulous time this weekend, thank you to all concerned
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: James Everington on September 08, 2014, 06:26:33 pm
My first Fantasycon. Was fabulous.

I blogged about my thoughts on it in more detail:
http://www.jameseverington.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/fantasycon-2014-york.html (http://www.jameseverington.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/fantasycon-2014-york.html)
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Rolnikov on October 28, 2014, 04:06:56 pm
I’ve been writing a piece on FantasyCon 2014 for the journal, but it’d good to include other points of view if possible. If anyone would be willing to contribute a paragraph or two, that would be great – please email it to me by the end of the month at journal@britishfantasysociety.org. I’m especially interested in hearing from people who went to the many, many events I missed (or missed most of):

A Working Class Hero is Something to Read? / Beyond Grimdark / Building the Same Old World / But Does It Make Sense? / Comics on the Small Screen / Dead Parents, Burned Homesteads and Wicked Stepmothers / Does Anyone Get Out of Here Alive? / Editing Dreams and Editor Nightmares / FanFiction / Film show / From Page to Screen / Gentleman Thieves, Loveable Pirates and Sexy Tricksters / Horror on the Small Screen / How to Get Noticed / Icky Romance / It’s the End of the World as we Know It – And I Feel Unsurprised / Joanne Harris in Conversation / Larry Rostant in Conversation / Mass Signing / My First Con / Podcasting for beginners / Rejectamentalist Manifesto / Round-Robin Poetry / SFF and Politics / She Ain’t Heavy, She’s My Sister / Surprise! / Tea and Jeopardy with Toby Whithouse / The Chosen One / The FantasyCon Disco / The Reign of the Geek / Toby Whithouse in Conversation / Tribute to Joel Lane / We’ve Got It Covered / When Fiction Goes Digital / Who’s Missing? / Workshop: Worldbuilding / Workshop: Writing for Comics
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: IanH on December 11, 2014, 01:06:15 pm
I've written a review of Fantasycon 2014, but I've been asked to add in the numbers attending - does anyone know this?

Thanks

Ian

Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Phil Lunt on December 11, 2014, 01:47:16 pm
I've written a review of Fantasycon 2014, but I've been asked to add in the numbers attending - does anyone know this?

Thanks
Ian

Lee would most likely be best to answer this, I'll give him a shout.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: IanH on December 12, 2014, 12:05:30 pm
Thanks, I'm guessing around the 400 mark, but that's a guess.
Title: Re: FantasyCon 2014
Post by: Phil Lunt on December 15, 2014, 01:03:28 pm
Thanks, I'm guessing around the 400 mark, but that's a guess.

Hi Ian - I sent you a PM, did you get it?