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Fantasy => General Discussion => Topic started by: Djibril on October 01, 2016, 03:52:06 pm

Title: Postapocalyptic fiction
Post by: Djibril on October 01, 2016, 03:52:06 pm
This lovely strip posted yesterday on the Robot Hugs ( web-comic illustrates in painfully accurate detail some of worst tropes of postapocalyptic literature, especially the treatment of women therein. (Personally, I think "literary" postapoc gets this even worse, because they're not allowed to have any redeeming features, unlike genre which can include adventure, excitement, fantasy and hope of a better world.)

So my question is: can you recommend any postapocalyptic novels, stories or films that do better than this? Break the stereotypes, use other indicators of horror than sexual violence, offer hope, tell a different story…
Title: Re: Postapocalyptic fiction
Post by: joshua rainbird on October 02, 2016, 09:48:03 pm
Children of Men is rather good
Title: Re: Postapocalyptic fiction
Post by: Djibril on October 02, 2016, 10:41:16 pm
That's true. I've not read the book, but the film was strong stuff, and not your typical post-apoc/pre-apoc/dystopian scenario. I mean, it was still a fascistic, victimize-the-already-disempowered, bad world, but I don't remember specifically violence against women being foregrounded much.

What about more hopeful post-apocalyptic.

(I'm not sure if the Steerswoman books count as post-apoc, or if they're just Long Sun-esque “science so advanced it looks like magic” space opera?—I guess we have to wait for the last two books to find out!)
Title: Re: Postapocalyptic fiction
Post by: Grum on June 24, 2018, 10:20:58 am
The particular theme of Children of Men was far better tackled imo by Brian Aldiss in Greybeard. John Wyndham, of course, did a good line of apocalypse/post apocalypse worlds and didn't need to resort to the use of sexual violence to signify the breakdown of society. He hinted a couple of times, but that was enough. And all his books have that candle flame of hope built in.