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General Discussion / Re: On immortality
« on: October 03, 2009, 01:17:29 pm »
Or 'Through thick and fin'  :-\

General Discussion / Re: Reading area and Bookshelf showing off!
« on: October 03, 2009, 01:14:55 pm »
Hooray! Now we can have some fun chit chat without feeling like we just walked into a room with a row going on!

I can't really add a picture of my bookshelves as they are currently choc full of ecology and wildlife titles. I live in a small flat and sadly had to clear out all my fiction bit by bit over the years of my degree. The down side of distance learning and not wanting to miss out!

As a result I now have severe bookcase envy, but do have two shelves full of my recently read and to be read, so balance is being restored.

Meanwhile, my envy has grown as I saw this on a website, now I want stairs so I can do the same:

I also recently saw pictures of Neil Gaiman's huge library, complete with comfy armchairs and sleeping cat. Something to aim for...

Book envy it's a terrible thing. Someone should set up a helpline.

I'm Sandra Norval and I'm a bookaholic.


I just wondered if this is all done now. I haven't read the book (yet), but I think Allyson's pain is being stretched further with all this, which really is a shame. So, congratulations Allyson on your win, you should be proud regardless of other people's thoughts/actions.

Meanwhile, I just thought I'd mention that this all gives a bit of an 'unapproachable' impression to new members (at least that's how I feel but I still joined the forum anyway). From comments in another thread that is something I know none of you would want. I do like, however, the bits about books and bookcases and thought it might be good to start a whole new thread on that, or where people read or something, might seem a little more welcoming.

Thanks, Sandra  ;D

Introductions / Re: Thank you Canongate
« on: September 29, 2009, 09:57:45 pm »
I'm from St Evenage. Oh, all right. Stevenage.

I was brought up in Enfield, and I used to go canoeing in Hertford, volunteered in Cheshunt, now work in Hitchin and go to Verulam Writers' Circle in St Albans, so know a fair bit of the county! Drive through PB on my way to mum's every so often. Small world!

Introductions / Re: Just landed!
« on: September 29, 2009, 09:52:43 pm »
Aw shucks, that's the one on the back burner! Guess I'll have to turn up the heat!!

Don't worry, you're safe in the woods. For now...!

Thanks for looking me up, much appreciated.

Introductions / Re: Just landed!
« on: September 28, 2009, 09:20:40 pm »
Thanks Andrew!

Introductions / Re: Thank you Canongate
« on: September 28, 2009, 09:19:49 pm »
Hi! Just had a look at your website and saw you are in Hertfordshire, me too!

Looking forward to getting to know you on here, welcome (BTW, I'm new too.)


General Discussion / Re: When a Sub-Genre kills a Genre
« on: September 28, 2009, 09:06:16 pm »
I wonder if this issue is as much about economics as it is about the quality of the books being published.

Recently my local Borders closed, which was gutting as it had decent Fantasy, Science Fiction and Horror sections, all separate. I understand that these stores, like Waterstones, work on a similar basis to supermarkets, only providing what sells. The way things are these days the money is mostly in the pockets of teenagers and twenty somethings, I suspect the demographic of paranormal romance fans is similar.

The shame is, if the books aren't available instore, chances are you'll head home and use Amazon, or an equivalent, rather than order it instore. That means the sale isn't registered against the store, therefore, no trigger for them to stock it. It can lead to a steady decline, no sales, no stock, no section and potentially no store.

The other point is that books on shelves in some ways sell themselves. How many times have you stood in a bookshop and come out with an armful when you only meant to buy one? Shopping online doesn't seem to have quite the same effect. So, if there's a huge shelf of PNR books, mixed with youngsters with money burning a hole, I think that makes the publishing industry really quite clever.

Doesn't bode well for any genre that isn't heavily promoted really, does it?

General Discussion / Re: The 'Classics'.. with added monster
« on: September 28, 2009, 08:36:19 pm »
Care to expand, Peter?

It seems they have an audience of some sort, doesn't that warrant a space on the shelf?

I'm not saying I'm a fan specifically, but if there is an issue of one sub-genre against another, then surely we all should vote with our wallets? Unless, of course you are concerned about the dumbing down of our classics...

It seems, Paul that you only like truly horrific horror. I'm still quaking at the site of the little grey bear in a giraffe costume  :o

Sandra  ;)

Introductions / Re: Just landed!
« on: September 27, 2009, 05:00:03 pm »
Thanks for the welcome!

BFS Events / Re: Christmas 2009 Open Night
« on: September 27, 2009, 04:56:45 pm »
Thanks, I'll watch for news!

Announcements and Suggestions / Re: BFS writing circle chatter
« on: September 27, 2009, 04:54:31 pm »
I take your point about the variation between possible entries, and yes allowing outstanding work to be selected would be a great alternative. It would give any members something to aim for as well as specifically preparing pieces to submit to the main competition.

Of course I am now waiting to read about Spikey the unicorn and plan to complete the first draft of Lestadt V Edward V Dracula V Buffy by nightfall (of course!).  8-D

Announcements and Suggestions / Re: BFS writing circle chatter
« on: September 26, 2009, 11:24:06 pm »

I'd be very interested in joining, in fact I was surprised to find that you didn't have a circle running already. I'll be brief as it sounds as if you've already discussed this in detail. Personally I would like:

- a closed circle with a separate forum for the writers, so you only share your work with non-writing readers when you are ready (a lot of people are critical but don't understand the process and that even the best have to work at it.)

- work available to the whole circle so you aren't limited, avoiding problems of anyone not getting along or not understanding someone else's style or subject. There is also the issue of crossover, splitting genre could be limiting.

- writing challenges set just to encourage you to stretch your style, could be set by professionals, other members, inspired by other sites. This would be great as an option rather than a competition. Could include inspiration images, set viewpoint, specific words to be used etc

- a quarterly competition with the winner either being published on the main forum, on the website or in one of the magazines. This would keep the pressure lower than monthly would but is a great incentive to get writing.

- as someone else mentioned it would be great for established authors, publishers, editors, agents etc to have access at some level and would definitely be a fantastic member benefit.

I hope this does work out, I think that you only get out what you put in when it comes to writers circles but it would be best to have clear guidelines on what people can say and how they should say it. Making it clear that repeated episodes of anything outside of the guidelines would result in exclusion from the circle is usually enough to regulate things.


BFS Events / Re: Christmas 2009 Open Night
« on: September 26, 2009, 07:11:44 pm »

I've seen the date and venue for the Open Night in December, I just wondered what to expect? Is it just a gathering over a few drinks or do you have a programme? I'm planning to come along, but will be on my own, so would find it less daunting if I have an idea beforehand!



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